Why are Labels being made this way?

DVDCoverArt · Site Master Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 1439

I am not going to tell you that you can't make them the way you do, but some of the things label creators do doesn't make sense.

1. Why put a region on a Custom label?

If you don't put a region on your label, your label can be used by everyone.

2. How can a Label be region free when you include symbols on the label that are specific to a particular region?

The answer is simple; a label is not region free if you include region specific symbols on it.

I believe that all labels should be region free and void of any region specific symbols. By doing so everyone can use the labels regardless of what region they are from. And if they want it to look like a specific region they can add the symbols themselves.

I have seen a lot of really nice labels that I would have loved to use, and would have, if they hadn't had region specific symbols on them. On some I could remove the symbols; on others I couldn't because of where they were located.

I would like to know your opinion.
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smudger · Lifetime Member Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 31 Location: UK

Now that you've stated it, I couldn't agree more. I've done quite a few in a regional manner without even thinking about it, especially if the label was to be uploaded with a matching cover; guess what I've done with my competition entry?

Oh, well, I'll just have to make sure that all my future efforts are kept as region free as possible, i.e. no region logo, no format (NTSC/PAL), no rating, no FBI logo and no mention of the film distributer etc.........

My own thoughts are that region free labels are a no-brainer; covers are another matter as they would "look incomplete" (Homebrew?) without a proper set of logos. Don't forget that many end users won't have the knowhow to add their own.

Perhaps it's just simpler to have a selection on site; what do you think?

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annarere1960 · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:

i have to agree with dvc ............no region logos means everyone can use the label instead a select few.......... Very Happy

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DeadeyeRich · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:

It's always been my way of thinking that if you needed a certain type of symbol or text in a particular language, that you should add it yourself. You will not see any text or symbols on any of the labels I've uploaded for that reason. Only the title and the artwork. I too have cloned out useless text and symbols from some of our members uploads. I'll be glad to see more of our members leaving them out.
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tkboxer · Resident Artist Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 1610

I think the only logos needed are DVD and the Rating (for parental purposes) I usually include the Studio and I like to know the run time of the movie.
I agree that all labels should be created as region 0.

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DVDude · *Member Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 102

I'm gonna go against the grain. I don't care what the region code is if it looks good.

flyers2thecup · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:09 am Post subject:

you could almost make the same argument for covers as well. other than the rating. but even the UK rating logo wouldn't look bad if wasn't 300x300 pixels and in 17 places on a cover.

to be honest, is there really a difference in the actual content of the disc? i always shudder when i see a beautiful cover, and then see 50% of the back splattered with that ugly UK box with the rainbow pyramid on the back! BLAH!

from what i can tell, and i can be wrong, it seems the biggest difference is in TV shows. always seems that there are different amounts of discs for the two regions.

to agree with what you said, it's 100% easier to add a logo if you want it, than to make someone have to try and delete it.

DOWN WITH REGION LOGOS! Smile

kylumi · Guest

funny enough logo's have never influenced me at all............i dont care if the logos are not specific to the movie............i tend to be only interested in the artwork.................but hey, thats just me Very Happy

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chrissy b · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:57 am Post subject:

i put a logo for all regions on mine what would you say about region all i just do it out of habbit. Wink

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BigBalloon · Lifetime Member Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 747

ok i only put company logo, dvd logo no more no less ...... if u want ratings and region u can put them on yourself,i dont like them thats why i dont put them on

a note taken by filmboy when i first started and still learning "less is best " Wink

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talion · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:

it's not a deal killer, but I certainly agree that covers look better without the region logos.

I've occasionally run into labels with multi languages on them too. While this is rare, i also believe that this detracts from the artwork.

GEORGIEBOY26 · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

i personally only place a region all logo on my labels, always have, and just the basic dvd and dts, along with the company logo...i think thats all thats needed....if any more are required, they can be added by user, or by request Rolling Eyes

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bobflemming · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:50 am Post subject:

I agree totally with you boss, labels should be region free, If i can't find the right region cover i always add my own logos Confused

I also agree with Ky if i prefer the art on the wrong region cover i'll use that above the correct region with sub-standard (in my opinnion) art.
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Boneapart · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:58 am Post subject:

I have made lots of labels and apart from the Artwork, Company Logo, DVD Logo, I only add the "Title" and "Surround Text" (which I think makes the label look better) plus the "Film Company Logo". In my opinion that is all that is needed on a custom label. Should anyone need anything else adding I'm sure they can add it themselves and if not they would only have to send me a PM and I will add whatever they want on any of my labels and personally email it to them.
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ravestones · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:40 am Post subject:

this is an intresting topic this could change the hole way custom covers are made just by removeing the region and the NTSC/PAL logo how would it be listed in the cover section would it be listed as countrys or the languge or would it not effect this Wink

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lone wilf · Limited Membership Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 45

So are we now to consider a foreign language film that has been released in a English speaking country, (USA, UK, Australia ect) to be a English cover, as the text is in english, and the subtitles are english.
Or is it a ______ langauge film as thats what it was made in, yet the cover is for a english speaking market.
To list films by the langauge its in rather than the langauge the cover is in would make it difficult to find a cover when searching for it. Please could this be cleared up.

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johncap · Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:27 am Post subject:

Interesting discussion. There are some people who won't even use a custom disc label or cover because it's not the retail scan. To them, I guess they're tying to convince themselves that what they have there is somehow the real thing. That's only a guess on my part. I FOR ONE cringe at anyting that is not accurate, regardless of what is or isn't included. What I mean is I prefer itto be close to the original with all details. If it's Region 1, then it should be marked as such. If it's 109 minutes, than it shouldn't say it's 94 minutes. If it's PG-13 it shouldn't have a PG logo. No rating is far better than the wrong one and plenty of work is being done with wrong logos on them. I do labels both ways and it's usually because I just don't feel like grabbing the Region logo at that moment. If I like a cover or label and it has stuff on it I don't like like that R2 logo or a wrong logo I'll modify it.
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loady · Special Member Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 162

Well, im with dvdude and kylumi, Im not really worried, if i was then there are usually plenty of other labels to choose from because of the richness of the resource page.......but on the other side of the coin, it annoys the heck out of me when people put sugar in my tea, assuming i take sugar Shocked

.....as i allways scream at them.....you can put it in but you cant take it out (unless of course, you are a dab hand in the art of distilling) Wink

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johncap · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:45 am Post subject:

loady · Special Member Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 162

Now im offended.....its the northeners in the uk who like flat, warm beer...i like ice cold fizzy lager...lots of it Wink

...but not that light toilet water my usa cousins drink

hyoogy · Member Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 95

I agree 100% there should be no region codes

flyers2thecup · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:10 am Post subject:

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